statespace.SARIMAX model: why the model use all the data to train mode, and predict the a range of train model

tktktk0711 picture tktktk0711 · May 29, 2017 · Viewed 11.5k times · Source

I followed the tutorial to study the SARIMAX model: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/a-guide-to-time-series-forecasting-with-arima-in-python-3. The date range of data is 1958-2001.

mod = sm.tsa.statespace.SARIMAX(y,
                                order=(1, 1, 1),
                                seasonal_order=(1, 1, 1, 12),
                                enforce_stationarity=False,
                                enforce_invertibility=False)

results = mod.fit()

when are fitting an ARIMA Time Series Model, I found the author all date range data to fit parameter of model. But when validating Forecasts, the author used date started from 1998-01-01 as one part of date range of data for fitting model.

pred = results.get_prediction(start=pd.to_datetime('1998-01-01'), dynamic=False)

I know in machine learning model, the training data and validation(test) data is different, I mean different range. I mean the author is right? why do like this(I mean the reason touse all train data), I a new one to SARIMAX model.

Could you guys tell me more about this model, for example how about predict days or weeks not just month, I mean how to set the parameter of order=(1,1,1), seasonal_order=(1, 1, 1, 12). Thanks!

Answer

papadoble151 picture papadoble151 · May 31, 2017

The author is right. When you do a regression (linear, higher-order or logistic - doesn't matter) - it is absolutely ok to have deviations from your training data (for instance - logistic regression even on training data may give you a false positive).

Same stands for time series. I think this way the author wanted to show that the model is built correctly.

seasonal_order=(1, 1, 1, 12)

If you look at tsa stats documentation you will see that if you want to operate with quarterly data - you have to assign the last parameter (s) - value of 4. Monthly - 12. It means that if you want to operate with weekly data seasonal_order should look like this

seasonal_order=(1, 1, 1, 52)

daily data will be

seasonal_order=(1, 1, 1, 365)

order component is the parameter that is responsible for non-seasonal parameters p, d and q respectively. You have to find them depending on your data behaviour

  • p. You can interpret it as wether enter image description here has an influence on enter image description here. Or in other words, if you have a daily data and p is 6 you can understand it as wether Tuesday data will have an influence on Sunday data.
  • d. Differencing parameter. It defines the level of integration of your process. It means how many times you should apply time series differencing operator in order to make your time series stationary
  • q. You can interpret it as how many prior noises (errors) affect the current value

Here is a good answer how you can find non-seasonal component values