How to find the largest UDP packet I can send without fragmenting?

Unknown picture Unknown · May 23, 2009 · Viewed 75.5k times · Source

I need to know what the largest UDP packet I can send to another computer is without fragmentation.

This size is commonly known as the MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit). Supposedly, between 2 computers, will be many routers and modems that may have different MTUs.

I read that the TCP implementation in windows automatically finds the maximum MTU in a path.

I was also experimenting, and I found out that the maximum MTU from my computer to a server was 57712 bytes+header. Anything above that was discarded. My computer is on a LAN, isn't the MTU supposed to be around 1500 bytes?

Answer

ChrisW picture ChrisW · May 23, 2009

The following doesn't answer your question directly but you might find it interesting; it says that IP packets can be disassembled/reassembled, and therefore bigger than limit on the underling media (e.g. 1500-byte Ethernet): Resolve IP Fragmentation, MTU, MSS, and PMTUD Issues with GRE and IPSEC


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I don't know about generating ICMP via an API on Windows: at one time such an API was proposed, and was controversial because people argued that would make it easy to write software that implements denial-of-service functionality by generating a flood of ICMP messages.

No, it looks like it is implemented: see for example Winsock Programmer's FAQ Examples: Ping: Raw Sockets Method.

So, to discover MTU, generate ping packets with the 'do not fragment' flag.

Maybe there's an easier API than this, I don't know; but I hope I've given you to understand the underlying protocol[s].